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Return to the Asia Challenge Page No, designs should be from the ground up. Nyaya Health's own website is a great place to learn more about your community partner. All boards must be submitted in English first. Translations are not a requirement as the jury will be English speaking. That said, making translations available in Nepali would benefit your community partners at a later stage in the Challenge. Please feel free to "Add a Comment" below and we will reply as soon as possible. You can also email challenge at architectureforhumanity.org Discuss this itemMon, 2008-03-03 16:38
Hello, I apologize if I missed something, but from the instructions to upload our documentation it would appear we were required to upload a text document which copies the submission text we paste into the edit application. I tried several times prior to the deadline to upload a Word document to the files, and it reports that these attempts were unsuccessful. Am I the only one who had such difficulty? Is the body of text I pasted sufficient to meet the requirements? Thank you the opportunity to join in this incredible competition. Good Luck to all who entered. Thu, 2008-03-06 12:03
As it seems the text we submitted in the 'Edit' option is the main required text. No text files like .doc or .txt were not required I think. Sat, 2008-03-01 12:38
Its seems the competition entries editing panels are still open while the deadline is over. Wed, 2008-04-02 00:24
Actually we took a snapshot of the entries at the time of the deadline. So, you can go ahead an update your entries after the jurying, but any changes made prior to the announcement of the winning entries would be a violation of the competition rules and you may be disqualified. cheers, Kate Stohr Tue, 2008-02-19 12:10
Are the toilets usually compost toilets? outhouses? Are some form of septic tanks being used? Mon, 2008-02-18 11:25
are we allowed to use site photos on picasa albums in our presentations? Sat, 2008-02-16 07:59
Ref. Pg. 17 of OAN/AMD Clarifying brief. Please confirm if Ultrasound and X-ray facility has to be provided in the Telemedicine center since there is no mention of this requirement under Section 2.4 (Pg. 6- Building Layout). Thanks! Thu, 2008-02-21 14:50
these are provided onsite at the clinic. however, there is flexibility here; if you find an interesting way to incorporate an x-ray room into the center, by all means... ultrasound, on the other hand, is done by a portable machine a t the patient's bedside so no need for a separate room. Wed, 2008-02-06 07:51
Does anyone know of good sources for climate data; I've had a look for some info online, but not had much luck. Specifically:
Any more data, or links for places to look would be great, Thanks, Gwilym Wed, 2008-01-30 11:57
I am hoping you can clarify a few things: a) Is the "site" I am to try to design on in the "flat" area of approx 2 acres from the North edge of the site leading up to the hill? On the skp model called "Nyaya Health Telemedine Center Site Layout - Site A" it shows this area to be rice fields, so I am assuming it is not this area that is to be developed.- That said: b) Is the "site" actually on the hill to the south of (behind) the existing Civil Engineering buildings? c) I guess I can appreciate the information that there is an abandoned hospital at the top of the mountain foothill, but are we considering any of that as relavent to this design problem? In other words, is there any influence upon our site or implied relationship between the two other than the historical context? d) If the "site" is the more hilly area to the South of the Civil Engineering buildings, is this the topo model that is being suggested by the skp model labled "Nyaya Health Telemedicine Center Site Layout-- Site B"? and if so, can you offer any physical demension reference to help extrapolate the "buildable area"? and is the buildable area a 2 acre spread in this hilly area, or did that dimension apply to "site A"? e) are you asking for two different proposals?- One for site A and one for site B? f) Where is the incinerator located in relation to any reference point at all as seen in the skp model entitled "Nyaya Health Incinerator and Burial Plot"? Please help Thu, 2008-02-07 07:53
thank you for your queries. we do apologize for the confusion. the main issue here is that there are two potential sites to build on-- A and B. in the clarifying brief document, it describes both sites: also on the picassa page there are two distinct gallery for each site: a)site A is indeed agricultural land but it is being offered to nyaya for development. thanks! Fri, 2008-01-25 06:11
The client has discussed the possible options for telecommnunications. Is this a major part of the submission? I would expect AMD and the client to deal with this separately? Tue, 2008-01-22 15:44
In your latest brief you stress on the mobility of doctors, and the decentralization of services, playing down the importance of the counseling rooms and the idea of patients staying overnight. The permanent structures seem to be more of an importance for Nyaya staff, while mobility - and flexibility - seem to be the priority for the community - as both patients and internet users. Would it be then better if a mobile unit, or units of various sizes, be designed for the community aspect, aided by the wireless technology and possible solar power, a medical/internet unit could be deployed in the village, doctors diagnosing patients and triaging 'in the field', in the comfort and privacy of the patients' own homes. While instead of spending money and resources building duplicate structures to house teaching labs, existing multipurpose rooms in schools for example could host the internet module. The traveling internet unit would thus reach more people, and be a part of their daily fabric. Economically, the money spent on structures would probably fund three, or more, mobile units, and as more money is raised, more units could be built matching the number of staff. If this proposal seems appropriate to Nyaya Health, could you please provide simple guidelines of the criteria this unit should meet. Wed, 2008-01-23 07:53
Thanks for the insightful post. This is certainly along the lines that we were thinking, as you rightly point out that in our area local access is so critical. The central telemdicine unit designed for the competition would be a hub for planning, experimentation, and training purposes. It would also be the focus of receiving outside consultations. The issue with a truly "mobile unit" is that most villages are acccessible by very poor dirt roads. But perhaps you are more interested it in small, permanent structures. These units could certainly be part of our intra-district strategy, which relies on local community healthworkers to, as you suggest, perform diagnosis, triage, and treatment in the field. In the beginning a huge step would be doing VOIP (using a zero-usage-cost intranet system) to enable the CHW to communicate with the central medical team. I know this sounds overly simple, but this is likely to be one of our more exciting and effective applications of telemedicine. In the beginning, we were imagining incorporating this into existing pharmacies and health posts, since in that instance it is more about the technology than the design. Even for using our internet as ISP, the computers could be located at schools etc. That is not to say there are not advantages of having independent structures for this, and there would of course be opportunities to pursue designing these, and we of course would welcome them, but I think for the competition purposes it is probably best to focus on the central unit. The basic technology and their costs are described briefly in the clarifying brief. Note also that in these areas there always will be district hospitals or otherwise "referral clinics" that benefit from having a larger telemedicine center to coordinate activities. So I would say the concept of a telemedicine center located near to a district clinic or hospital center is appropriate and scalable. Hope this helps. Fri, 2008-01-18 08:37
why there are again the counselling rooms in the program? in the new pdf you uploaded... because in the same time it's written that all medical stuff will be done in the clinic!?!? thanks a lot for all your answers! Fri, 2008-01-18 12:40
I am sorry for the confusion. We are trying to allow for as much flexibility as possible. As discussed in the clarifying brief, those counselling rooms would mostly be for one-on-one counselling on education or microfinance projects. There would be a possibility of clinical interactions in these counseling rooms, but it is unlikely that that would happen. We are trying to leave things open-ended to provide you with some flexibility in design and us long-term with flexibility in programming. We were also trying to stay as consistent with the original brief, which had labelled two counseling rooms. Fri, 2008-01-18 13:33
Dear Duncan Maru, I am always trying to approach your work with empathy, and I can guess how difficult your work is, however I have to ask for the same empathy from you, since, continuous changes about the competition is devastating for us, most of the designers here I believe have other works than this challenge, and we can spare our limited time for this, but when even the smallest change is made in the brief, whole design entails complete reviews. I approve dynamic design inputs, open-endedness, process rather than position, but in order to make proposals we need tangible and constant inputs at least for a limited time, after the challenge there will already be a process with the winning proposal naturally. Please do not be offended but with all my respect I am asking to have a final design input, or let us know that this pdf is the final one. Sat, 2008-01-19 06:12
The design brief as it currently stands is the final one. We definitely empathize with you all and are so appreciative of the creative energy and solidarity you are all putting into the project. Our reason for putting the updated design brief was to help you all design something more realistic. It was intended as an "update" with more site specifics. Unfortunately some of those updates changed a lot about how you all were planning on designing, and we apologize for the wasted time and energy. The most recent PDF was an attempt to allow more flexibility and to be more consistent with the original design brief. We again apologize for having been quite unprepared initially to understand what this project would entail, but we have made some strides over the last few months and are excited about the project's prospects. Fri, 2008-01-18 07:26
Dear all, Thank you for your patience. We will try to improve the sketchup file some, this is the best for now. Best, Wed, 2008-01-16 04:50
Please do bear with us, we deeply apologize for the back-and-forth nature of this. Please forgive us again for the frustrations we have caused you. Given the delays in providing you the updated site information, the OAN team has stated that they will allow either of the two sites to be developed. There is also significant room for creative interpretation of the design brief and its clarifying document. Within two days hopefully we will be sending to you via Kathmandu the sketchup file and additional photos of the site Cameron had provided to you all. Please see our updated clarifying brief: Also, given the perception that the "telecomm hub" was somehow different from the "telemedicine center", we have reverted to the wording of the original brief. We had used the term to be more encompassing and to emphasize that we would be doing additional activities through our ICT programs. There is also the issue of whether clinicians would see patients at the telemedicine center. We see this as having significant flexibility depending upon how the designs go. Here is what we re-wrote in the design brief: While there are two “counseling rooms” that may be used for patient interactions or otherwise for one-on-one financial or educational counseling, typically no patients would be treated at this location. Rather, clinicians utilize telemedicine applications locally at clinic sites (via bandwidth provided by the telemedicine hub). Most patient interaction rooms would be located at the existing clinic and satellite sites. That said, we are open to any possibilities that maximize efficiency, scalability, and patient care. If designers have developed such rooms, then we are more than happy to entertain such possibilities. The reasons that we are hesitant to include patient interaction rooms are as follows. The first is the issue of scalability, or the ability to incorporate the design into existing clinics and hospitals. In most cases in Nepal, the shortage is not of hospital beds or spaces for patients but rather for staff trained and willing to work there. Also, where the clinic settings are relatively small, designing a telemedicine center where patients would actually be seen but where community activities would also take place seemed to present issues in patient comfort and confidentiality without much benefit. Since it costs so little to get the connectivity from the clinic (just a little cords or Wi-Fi), there is less of a benefit to actually seeing patients at the telemedicine center. All the technology can be deployed on-site at the existing clinical structures. The third issue is it allows for increased functionality, in that having some distance from the clinic facilitates the community and ourselves to better achieve multiple functions for the space by relieving the constraints of being built into a clinic/hospital. We wish you all the best with your designs. Wed, 2008-01-16 13:33
Reading the clarifying brief for the competition, it's stated that both sites are available on the sketchup site. Besides the Clinic model and the incinerator/ burial plat, there's only one site, which I assume is site B, on the hill. - Will site A be available on the sketchup site? Fri, 2008-01-18 07:25
Dear all, Thank you for your patience. I'm sure that we will have to address further concerns over the next few months from the design teams, and we look forward to that dialogue. Let us know if you have any questions, concerns, ideas, and we'll get to it promptly. Best, Tue, 2008-01-15 06:04
Dear Nyayahealth, 1. Concerning the 8 sleeping rooms and common spaces for their users: Who will be living in these rooms? And how are the people living there? That means do they really live there permanently or is it supposed to be a more temporary sleeping possibility for people who come there for a few days? 2. You wrote because of practical reasons it has changed and now the internet hub is a project itself without the health treatment. Could you please just clarify why and what the advantages of the separation (clinic / internet hub) are? 3. Is the community space in this project the only in this region or will there still be one in the clinic? How do you see the importance of this space? 4. And finally a more technical question: In the pdf you wrote that there is a telephone pole just 50m next to the site but landline phone is currently not available. Does this mean that there is the infrastructure but no provider or don't we understand this expressions correctly? Thanks a lot for the answer in advance! Tue, 2008-01-15 18:39
Apologies again for our lack of clarity. We will attempt to address your excellent questions. We have also updated the brief with these clarifications for re-download if you would like for reference: 1. This would be for permanent staff to live there. Location-- when we had written the grant, we were thinking that the telemedicine center would be located at the badelgata hospital, but for political reasons that became impossible. As such, we had to do it at the clinic site. The land adjacent to the clinic site is arable farmland that we certainly could buy out at a huge sum, but I don't think that would be appropriate for the community. 3. There is no community space at the clinic. There isn't any similar space in Sanfe or elsewhere in the area, although admittedly most activities take place outside. There are schools with decent-sized halls. I think for trainings this space will be particularly important. We are especially excited to have a training center for community health workers; this currently takes place at the clinic, but it would be nice to have a larger, designated space. 4. Good catch. That is actually an electrical pole. There is no telephone lines in Sanfe, though we are lobbying on it with Nepal Telecom. Deep apologies for the careless mistake on our part. Sun, 2008-01-13 07:20
This is the URL for the site photos: Please do let us know if you have any questions or concerns. Mon, 2008-01-14 16:09
I had already posted these questions in other threads, but it's hard to find out when those get updated. - the sketchup model shows concrete stairs on the Western boundary of the site, and what appears to be water (colored blue in model). Can you clarify if these are actual stairs, or maybe just a footpath? - It seems this revised site is significantly smaller than the original near the clinic. Can you please confirm that the site has an area of ~2000 sq.m? It was mentioned in a previous thread that the new site is approximately 1 acre, but 2000 sq.m. = 21,500 sq.ft., about 1/2 acre. - what is the preferred unit of measure in Nepal - inch or cm? thanks. Tue, 2008-01-15 18:15
We apologize that we hadn't adequately addressed your other threads. Re: those stairs. Re: size of the site. Wed, 2008-01-09 15:53
It would be a nice way to keep up on the latest posts. If not, does OAN plan on incorporating this functionality in the future? Wed, 2008-01-09 15:49
Cameron Sinclair recently (1/7/2008) sent out a mass email to all of the OAN Asian Challenge participates. The following is a quote from this email. "On the site is a former grain storage facility which has been cleaned up and repainted to allow Nyaya Health to run a basic health services. It is connected to the main road into town and less than 50 yards from a police outpost." ... but according to the latest brief: Could you please clarify which site is indeed the most current? Also, in previous forum posts there was talk about receiving new photos of the site. I did notice that there was new photos posted here: http://picasaweb.google.com/webdano/SanfeBager ,but they don't seem to include the new site. Are we to assume the photos for the new site are still forthcoming. Thank You. Wed, 2008-01-09 16:03
I believe the latest "Information Technology and Telecommunications Strategy for Nyaya Health in Acham, Nepal" brief (dated Dec. 27th, 2007) supercedes the Sinclair email titled "Visiting Nyaya Health", dated Jan. 7th, 2008. The discrepancy is due to the fact that Sinclair visited the other OAN/AMD competition sites as well. It has been stated by Nyaya Health that their strategy changed after the site visit by Sinclair. Of course, I would appreciate direct confirmation by Nyaya Health on this issue as well. Thu, 2008-01-10 05:16
That is correct, our document supercedes his. We apologize for the confusion. The issue is that yes the former grain storage is our clinic, but the telecomm site is not directly adjacent to the clinic. Those new photos are old photos that one of our members came across. The new photos will be uploaded tomorrow evening 1/11 EST, weather and politics permitting. They will be clearly labeled and organized. Tue, 2008-01-15 22:50
Given the lateness in the finalizing of the site (they are very close together) we will be accepting designs for any of the sites. The focus should be on the scope of the project, integration of technology and response to need. For some reason we did not get the latest information on the site until after we left Nepal. The joys of working these environments! Cheers Wed, 2008-01-09 15:35
I was wondering if you could characterize for everyone how prevalent and cheap bamboo is for a building material. Having done some research at the following links, it seems that bamboo in this region is indeed plentiful/cheap, but i hesitate a little because with all the photos taken by the OAN crew, you don't see any houses or buildings incorporating bamboo as either a structural or enclosure element. It seems at first glance anyway, that this lack of use is due to either scarcity or cost, but i could be wrong. Any impressions you could give would be greatly appreciated. http://www.bioversityinternational.org/publications/Web_version/572/ch29... please read the following post as well... Thu, 2008-01-10 07:02
Thank you for this insightful post. We will ask around in Achham about bamboo construction to better understand the issues as to why it is not more widely used in our area, and whether there are any examples of its successful application. Tue, 2008-01-15 22:54
We feel it is a feasible material but the climate may not be totally beneficial to producing large quantities. Fri, 2008-01-18 12:44
Almost exclusively wheat. Re: Bamboo. People used it to build temporary houses and also in the beginning of contruction (to place the bricks and proceed in the vertical). They have not found it useful for constructing more permanent structures. Sun, 2008-01-06 22:07
Could someone post a map showing the locations of the new clinic, the abandoned hospital and the telecommunications center site? I can't reconcile the directional comments on the site model page with the Nyaya Health marker on Google Earth and the site visit video. Putting markers on Google Earth would be especially helpful because of the ability to visualize all three dimensions. Tue, 2008-01-08 01:37
We are trying to get you more photos of the site, for now the best photos are around: Tue, 2008-01-15 22:45
All entries are to uploaded digitally to the project that is started when you sign up. If you some reason you have having alot of problems uploading (ie. internet connection is difficult) please let us know. Thu, 2008-01-17 10:15
By "board" I understand a physical printout, mounted on a stiff backing of some sort. Is this to be digital file only? I think the original poster was inquiring about dimensions of board (width X height). If digital only is required, then maybe a minimum resolution (pixels) would be helpful. Can you please clarify? |
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